[RFC] [WIP] 💡 Topic: The pace of community tooling changes when compared to that of Objective-C

[rodericj]

Keywords

• tooling
• objective-c
• swift

Summary

I want to talk about the pace of tooling innovation with Swift as opposed to that of Objective-c. Specifically around testing, where, before swift, the pace was largely dictated by Xcode and there would be years of less than ideal tools with community contributions being largely pigeonholed to the depths of swizzling. The tools with Swift seem to be arriving to the community much quicker and with a higher level of quality and expectation of longevity.

[BasThomas]

This is a really interesting idea and topic!

[rodericj]

Testing was a thing that I was always supposed to do but didn't feel like there was enough support back in the Obj-C days. Yes I'm aware that people did testing, but the support seemed unofficial. Now with swift it just seems so easy and the community seems in control of the entire slack.

I'd be happy to talk more about this though I'm afraid I'm not understanding the PR flow. At this point do I take the template and run with it? Seems like PRs are the place where the organization happens.

[BasThomas]

That would help shape it, sure. You can also wait for a bit more input from others, but feel free to go ahead with a pull request!

[rodericj]

@BasThomas is there something I should be doing to drum up more feedback from others?

[BasThomas]

What do @garricn @JohnSundell @lattner think?

Also you could try sharing this on Twitter to reach out to some people maybe? :)