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+author: 'juxt'
+title: 'JUXT Cast: Exploring Data, Visualization, and Innovation with Ryan Robitaille'
+description: 'In this podcast episode, Jeremy Taylor and Malcolm Sparks chat with Ryan Robitaille about Rabbit, blending creativity, BI tools, and the power of Clojure.'
+category: 'clojure'
+layout: '../../layouts/BlogPost.astro'
+publishedDate: '2025-03-26'
+heroImage: 'JuxtCast-dark.jpg'
+tags:
+  - 'clojure'
+  - 'BI'
+  - 'data'
+  - podcast
+---
+
+In this engaging episode of the JUXT Cast, Jeremy Taylor and Malcolm Sparks sit down with Ryan Robitaille, the founder of [Rabbit](https://github.com/ryrobes/rvbbit). Ryan shares his unique journey—from working with Oracle systems as a young Solutions Engineer to becoming a creative force in the world of data visualization.
+
+Ryan explores his experience building Rabbit, a tool designed to bridge the gap between proprietary BI tools and custom-built engineering solutions. Frustrated by the limitations of traditional tools like Tableau, Ryan envisioned a platform that offers the "best of both worlds": the simplicity of drag-and-drop dashboards with the power and flexibility of live coding and version control.
+
+## Key Takeaways from the Episode:
+
+- The Origins of Rabbit: How Ryan’s passion for combining artistry and data engineering sparked the creation of a platform that feels like a "game engine for data."
+- Balancing Build vs. Buy: Insights into the perpetual organizational dilemma of purchasing BI tools versus building in-house solutions.
+- Clojure’s Role: How Clojure and its philosophy of "code is data" played a pivotal role in Rabbit's architecture and flexibility.
+- The Tableau Experience: Ryan reflects on Tableau's transformative early days and where the tool has hit its limits.
+- Empowering End-Users: Why Ryan believes tools should offer a low bar for entry but a high ceiling for complexity.
+  With fascinating anecdotes and deep technical insights, this episode sheds light on how data platforms can evolve to empower creativity, transparency, and collaboration.
+
+Watch the full episode here:
+
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+
+### Addendum
+
+This JUXT Cast episode is also available as a podcast across [all your favourite platforms](https://pnc.st/s/juxt-cast/be4731c9/exploring-data-visualization-and-innovation-with-ryan-robitaille).
+
+Happy listening!